Thursday, August 28, 2014

Home Birth in the USA





There are some things you may not know about home birth in the USA. For example, if you were told that "home birth is as safe as hospital birth" then you need to know that is, in fact, not true... not in America... not even for low risk women. Here is some information regarding midwives, birth centers, home birth, studies, statistics, guidelines, and more, that you may find useful for learning more about home birth in our country. There is a lot to read here but it is important information in order for you to make a fully informed decision.

Let's start with an introduction for those who have never stopped by before. My name is Dani. I'm a birth doula and former home birth advocate. Here's my story:


* MIDWIVES *
One key issue with home birth here is the many different types of midwives we have in the USA: CNMs, CMs, CPMs, LMs, LDMs, lay midwives..... So many!! Each type has different standards for education and training (or no standards at all). Here is an easy-to-read series that touches on the three main types of midwives:

Most home births in the USA are attended by a Certified Professional Midwife (CPM) or Licensed Midwife (LM) (CPMs and LMs are very similar). It's important to know that CPMs and LMs would not be able to be licensed in any other first world country. The standards simply are not rigorous enough. They are only legal in 26 states, do NOT earn hospital privileges as a part of their training process nor do they have any higher level education requirements -- as opposed to American CNMs/CMs and midwives in countries like the Netherlands, Canada and the UK. Safer Midwifery for Michigan has an eye-opening post that explains how little it potentially takes to earn the title “Certified Professional Midwife”:

Here is a great series exploring what it takes to become a midwife in other countries: The Education of Midwives Around the World

Many home birth midwives do not carry malpractice insurance. Why is insurance important? Insurance protects you. It means that if something happens that causes death or injury, you are able to have recourse and accountability. It means that if your child suffers an injury during birth, you can have compensation to help pay for life long care that may be needed.

There is no transparency for home birth midwives. They do not have a publicly accessible board where any disciplinary measures would be listed. How do you know if your midwife has ever practiced negligently, resulting in the death or injury of a baby or mother? What is your midwife's real record? How can you verify it? How do you know for certain how many births she has attended? Far too many mothers have trusted their midwives, trusted the friendship they developed with their midwives, trusted their judgement and reputation, only to find out after a bad outcome that their midwife was less than forthcoming.


* BIRTH CENTERS *
Is a freestanding birth center safer than a home birth? That depends. In many ways, a freestanding birth center birth is just a home birth in someone else's home. What equipment does your birth center offer that wouldn't be available at home? Is the distance to the hospital closer? What types of midwives are running the center and who will attend your birth? The 2013 Birth Center study shows that out-of-hospital birth can be a reasonably safe option. However, it's important to know that this study does NOT reflect all birth centers in the USA. It was a select group of birth centers, majority of which were run by CNMs. The birth centers met certain criteria and were CABC-accredited. Out of 248 freestanding birth centers in the USA, only 79 were included in the study. Read more about the Birth Center Study here:


* HOME BIRTH STUDIES AND STATISTICS *
Here are studies and statistics regarding home birth safety. It's important to look at studies done in the USA. Studies regarding home birth in other countries do not reflect home birth in America: different midwives, different health care systems. Outcomes will be better in countries where, for example, midwives have high standards for education and training and where the midwives have hospital privileges. These links are studies regarding home birth in America... and every single study shows a significant increase risk for babies born at home:

1. The 2014 MANA study, showing an increase risk of intrapartum and neonatal death of 3-5x for babies born to low risk women: Mortality rates from the new study by the Midwives Alliance of America 

2. Studies in the USA, current as of January 2014: Home birth studies 

3. 2013 studies (USA and internationally) and CDC data: 2013 Home birth studies and statistics 



* INFANT MORTALITY *
Advocates of the home birth movement use infant mortality to try to scare women away from our hospitals / maternity care.

Infant mortality is not the correct mortality rate to use to gauge safety of obstetrics / maternity care. Infant mortality is live birth through the entire first year. It does not include stillborn babies. It includes any and all deaths like accidents, disease, SIDS, etc that may happen day 4, day 204 or day 364... death at any time, for any reason for the first full year of life. Perinatal mortality is a much more accurate measure for maternity care (even the World Health Organization acknowledges this). It includes prematurity, fetal mortality (death of baby in utero), intrapartum mortality (death of baby during labor and delivery) and neonatal mortality (death of baby during first 27 days of life).

So why don’t the leaders of the home birth movement discuss perinatal mortality? Because the United States does very well with perinatal mortality, tied with countries like France and Japan, and actually better than countries like the Netherlands and the UK.

When will they stop trying to scare women using the wrong mortality rate?


* THE LIES AND MISINFORMATION *
Home birth in our country is sadly built on a foundation of lies and misinformation. An example is the press release written by MANA for the new MANA study: it's lies, cherry-picked info and misinformation. I shared more about this in an interview with SteadyHealth (as well as thoughts on HBAC/VBAC). To touch on this issue of the MANA study, I tried to put things into perspective:

"A home birth mortality rate of 1.62/1000 [from the new MANA study] for babies born to low risk women might not mean much of anything without having something to compare it to. 1.62/1000 just sounds low. However, when you compare it to the 2013 Birth Center study, for example, which has a mortality rate of 0.87/1000 for babies born to comparable risk women, then it makes you wonder why is the MANA study mortality rate twice as high?

These numbers all seem low, though. But it’s important to remember how many babies are born every year in the USA, specifically how many are born in an out-of-hospital setting. According to the CDC Wonder Database, in 2012 there were 38,997 midwife-attended out-of-hospital births - some in birth centers, some at home. So just for the sake of illustrating a point here, let’s round up to 40,000 births and let’s pretend they are all low risk women. According to the MANA study mortality rate of 1.62/1000, approximately 65 babies would die out of 40,000. According to the Birth Center study mortality rate of 0.87/1000, approximately 35 babies would die. According to the hospital mortality rate of 0.38-0.58/1000, approximately 15-23 babies would die. That’s a huge difference in the number of babies born at home that would not survive either childbirth or the first month of life. Now those mortality rates don’t seem so small.

What is home birth in America doing so wrong that their mortality rates are so much worse than hospitals and (certain) CABC-accredited birth centers? 1.62/1000 is the mortality rate for babies born to low risk women. This is not acceptable. Instead of addressing this issue and figuring out ways to make home birth better, safer they instead are spending their time trying to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes. They want people to think that 1.62/1000 is good. But it isn’t."

Read more here: SteadyHealth Interview

Another big source of misinformation is the popular film “The Business of Being Born.” Here is my critique of the film, which hits on misleading information that is widely shared, not just in this movie:


* GUIDELINES, EQUIPMENT & WHAT TO ASK YOUR MIDWIFE *
What makes home birth a reasonably safe option? Here are some guidelines:
What equipment is available at home versus in a hospital?
Home vs Hospital: The Equipment
What questions should you ask your midwife?
Considering Out-of-Hospital Birth?

Have questions or more suggested reading material? Share in the comments below or here on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/douladanielle/posts/646718472063552




49 comments:

  1. link # 4 is described mistakenly. the cornell study did not include intrapartum death rate, only neonatal death rate which ends up as a different number. regarding the johnson study, you only linked to a piece by amy tuteur and not to the actual missing mortality 2000 data that johnson and mason allegedly excluded deliberately. do you have a link or a direct citation? thank you.

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    1. I already replied to you on this issue. Here is what I said:

      You can't link directly to the information, you have to do a search through the CDC wonder data base. Do you know how to do that? I can tell you if you don't.

      Here's another read you might enjoy:
      http://www.babymed.com/blogs/danielle-repp/press-release-wrongfully-claims-home-birth-safe

      Link #4 does not describe the link incorrectly.

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    2. If you'd like intrapartum mortality rate info, read here:

      http://whatifsandfears.blogspot.com/2014/03/mana-study-part-1-intrapartum-mortality.html

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  2. link doesn't have anything about the data related to the jackson and study, if i missed it can you quote it here? sorry for the bother.

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    1. excuse me once more, i'm mixing up my replies again. this was regarding the post on the jackson study.

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  3. None of your links are working, I'd love to read them though.

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    1. Sorry about that! They should all be working now. Let me know if you have any problems and thanks for alerting me to the issue!

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  4. Why don't you do your next bashing blog on the maternal statistics of hospital. How the C-section rate in the US is 3 times higher than the WHO recommends. How you are more likely to die from placenta implantation problems caused from multiple C-sections than you are to die from uterine rupture yet very few places allow women to attempt a VBAC. How infants are more likely to have respiratory problems and now coming to light, immune system problems causes from all of the C-sections.....I could go on and on. I am just giving you a few subjects for your next blog. Maybe the women of the United States should just stop having children since it isn't safe no matter where you go.

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    1. Wow... you seem really upset by my post here. I think no matter where a woman chooses to give birth, she deserves informed consent. Home or hospital.

      As far as maternal statistics... Unfortunately, the real issue in our country is health of pregnant women. Maternal death is very rare (which is why it's measured per 100,000). And it's even more rare for healthy, low risk women.

      Our number one pregnancy-related killer for women in the USA is cardiovascular disease. Followed by non-cardiovascular diseases.

      Some important information to read/consider:

      "In the U.S., deaths from hemorrhage, sepsis (infection) and abortion (the medical definition of which includes ectopic pregnancy, miscarriage and induced abortion) are on the decline.... But deaths from medical complications that were either exacerbated by pregnancy or started during pregnancy -- things like congenital heart disease, diabetes, obesity and kidney problems, are on the rise." (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/19/us-maternal-mortality-rate_n_5340648.html << this link includes a recent study on maternal mortality around the globe)

      In other words, mass majority of the women dying due to pregnancy-related issues in the USA have chronic health issues and need more intervention, not less.

      Chronic health issues also affect the cesarean section rate... a high risk mother is more likely to need a cesarean section.

      But yes, our cesarean section is likely too high. The WHO admitted their cesarean rate goal range is not based on evidence and seeings how the Netherlands is over 15% and has a female population that is *significantly* lower risk than the female population in the USA, I highly doubt that even if we never had another unnecessary cesarean section that our rate would be between 10-15%. I'm glad that ACOG is pushing for a reduction in the primary cesarean section rate -- it's needed. Cesarean sections are major surgeries.

      I'm not on board with VBAC bans. So I share your concern with that.

      Just because I want women to have information about home births that brings to light certain issues with face in our home birth system here... information that clearly upsets you.... doesn't mean I think hospitals are infallible. We have work to do on both sides. That doesn't change the fact that a baby is more likely to not survive at a planned, midwife attended home birth than in a hospital. And women deserve to know that.

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  5. Just wanted to say that your post has helped me so much. You have done an amazing job of staying respectful and unbiased but still giving facts. This mama appreciates the honesty. I have been struggling with this very issue since finding out I am pregnant with our second

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    1. Thank you, Megan! I appreciate your comment very much. And congratulations on your pregnancy :)

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    Newborn infection. ...nd a lover who ran into it and had a shock on me after the checkup and develop stroke.
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    Bladder problems. ...
    Meningitis. ...
    Rectal inflammation (proctitis).
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  15. Always, anywhere and anytime,I feel very comfortable now all to the work of Dr Ebacol,the Herbalist who prepare for me the remedies to my health challenges.i could feel more comfortable when he explained to me how dangerous it's caring Herpes with me getting affected easily with Other sexually transmitted infections. Genital sores increases my risk of transmitting or contracting other sexually transmitted infections, including AIDS.
    Newborn infection. ...nd a lover who ran into it and had a shock on me after the checkup and develop stroke.
    This has been my earnest prayers for the physician therapist to come in with positive solutions to remedies Herpes and most
    Bladder problems. ...
    Meningitis. ...
    Rectal inflammation (proctitis).
    I was so scared when he says that because I fou viral infections. I'm now free and I thank God for leading me to see others getting cured with Herbs. I decided to try and found out that the best way I would have done was to get rid of it and give my testimony. Glory to God I became free after I received his medicine from the DHL and applied as instructed. Till date I had no SYMPTOMS nor virus to detect of me, I called him and thankful for what he did,and ask if he could cure my stroke boyfriend,he said yes and did the same preparation to my boyfriend for his stroke and Recovered from it. Nothing is impossible with Herbs IN CURES, you're the next if you will be willing to apply his medicine and instructions on how to manage.
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    Cell number (WhatsApp/calls)
        +2348159042641    

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  17. God bless Dr. Odion for his marvelous work in my life, I was diagnosed of HERPES since 2018 and I was taking my medications, I wasn't satisfied i needed to get the HERPES out of my system, I searched out some possible cure for HERPES i saw a comment about Dr. Odion, how he cured HERPES,DIABETES,HIV,and CANCER with his herbal medicine, I contacted him and he guided me. I asked for solutions, he started the remedy for my health, he sent me the medicine I took the medicine as prescribed by him and 14 days later i was cured from HERPES, Dr. Odion truly you are great, do you need his help also? Why don’t you contact him through his EMAIL: drodionherbalhome12@gmial.com call or whatsApp him on +2349019421176

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  18. FINALLY FREE FROM HERPES VIRUS. what a miracle i never believe there is cure because my doctor tested me herpes positive and she told me there is no cure, i’m very happy today that i’m having a free life without this herpes virus, i can remember some months ago when i was crying all through the night and day that i can’t get cured from this herpes, i found this herbal man called Dr Adigba on internet when i was doing research on cure for shingle i contacted him to found out if i can get help from this herpes virus, i was so surprise when he told me that he have the herbs cure to it and he sent me the herbal in less down 5 days i was so happy when i get someone giving me hope that he can cured me i took the herbal for just 2 weeks, when i went for test after taking the herbal i found out that i am cured i was so happy and surprise, i want to use this opportunity to inform you that there is cured to herpes virus you can also contact him for his help as soon as possible so that you can get rid of this herpes once and for all you can reach him through this email: dradigba@gmail.com or whatsApp him on +2348077875210 You can also contact him on any disease and virus in this he all have the herbal cure to it. 1 HIV/AIDS 2 HERPES 3 CANCER 4 ALS 5 HEPATITIS 6 DIABETES 7 LOVE SPELL 8 INFECTIONS 9 HIGN BLOOD PRESSURE,..... THANKS TO DR SUNNYNA FOE THE GOOD WORK IN LIFE YOU BLESS.....    

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  19. i have been suffering from a deadly disease (Hsv) for the past 3 years now, I had spent a lIot of money going from one places to another, from churches to churches, hospitals have been my home every day residence. Constant checks up have been my hobby not until this faithful day, I was searching through the internet, I saw a testimony on how Dr Onokun helped someone in curing his (Hsv) herpes disease, quickly I copied his email which is Dronokunherbalcure@gmail.com just to give him a test I spoke to him, he asked me to do some certain things which I did, he told me that he is going to provide the herbal cure to me, which he did, then he asked me to go for medical checkup after some days after using the herbal cure, behold I was free from the deadly disease, he only asked me to post the testimony through the whole world, faithfully am doing it now, please brothers and sisters, he is great, I owe him in return. if you are having a similar problem just email him on : Dronokunherbalcure@gmail.com

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  20. I’m very excited to inform everyone that I’m completely cured from HSV1&2 recently. I have used Oregano oil, Coconut oil, Acyclovir, Valacyclovir, Famciclovir, and some other products and it’s really help during my outbreaks but I totally got cured from HSV1&2 with a strong and active herbal medicine ordered from a powerful. herbalist called Dr. Onokun and it completely fought the virus away my nervous system and I tested negative after 14 days of using the herbal medicine. I’m here to let everyone know that herpes virus has a complete cure, I got rid of mine with the help of Dr. Onokun and his herbal exploit. Contact him via email: Dronokunherbalcure@gmail.com

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  21. FINALLY FREE FROM HERPES VIRUS
    I thought my life had nothing to offer anymore because life became meaningless to me because I had Herpes virus, the symptoms became very severe and bold and made my family run from and abandoned me so they won't get infected. I gave up everything, my hope, dreams,vision and job because the doctor told me there's no cure. I consumed so many drugs but they never cured me but hid the symptoms inside me making it worse. I was doing some research online someday when I Came across testimonies of some people of how DR Ebhota Cured them from Herpes, I never believed at first and thought it was a joke but later decided to contact him on the details provided and when I messaged him we talked and he sent me his herbal medicine and told me to go for a test after two weeks. Within 7 days of medication the symptoms disappeared and when I went for a test Lo and behold IT was NEGATIVE by the Doctor Who tested me earlier. Thank you DR Ebhota because I forever owe you my life and I'll keep on telling the world about you. If you are going through the same situation worry no more and contact DR Ebhota viadrebhotasolution@gmail. com or WhatsApp him via +2348089535482.he also special on curing 1. HIV/AIDS 2. HERPES 3. CANCER 4 .ALS 5. HEPATITIS B 6.DIABETES 7. HUMAN PAPILLOMAVIRUS DISEASE(HPV)8. ALZHEIMER 9. LUPUS (Lupus Vulgaris or LupusErythematosus

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  22. I am so Happy to be writing this article in here, i am here to explore blogs forum about the wonderful and most safe cure for HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS.I was positive to the Virus called HERPES and i lost hope completely because i was rejected even by my closet friends. i searched online to know and inquire about cure for HERPES and i saw testimony about DR Ebhota online on how he cured so many persons from Herpes Disease so i decided to contact the great herbalist because i know that nature has the power to heal everything. i contacted him to know how he can help me and he told me never to worry that he will help me with the natural herbs from God! after 2 days of contacting him, he told me that the cure has been ready and he sent it to me via FEDEX or DHL and it got to me after 4 days! i used the medicine as he instructed me (MORNING and EVENING) and i was cured! its really like a dream but i'm so happy! that's the reason i decided to also add more comment of Him so that more people can be saved just like me! and if you need his help,contact his Email: (drebhotasoltion@gmail.com) You can contact him on WhatsApp +2348089535482 He also have the herb to cure difference cure for any sickness (1) HERPES,
    (2) DIABETES,
    (3) HIV&AIDS,
    (4) URINARY TRACT INFECTION,
    (5) HEPATITIS B,
    (6) IMPOTENCE,
    (7) BARENESS/INFERTILITY
    (8) DIARRHEA
    (9) ASTHMA..

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  23. WHAT A GREAT MIRACLE THAT I HAVE EVER SEE IN MY LIFE. My names are Clara David I’m a citizen of USA, My younger sister was sicking of breast cancer and her name is Sandra David I and my family have taking her to all kind of hospital in USA still yet no good result. I decided to search for cancer cure so that was how I found a lady called Peter Lizzy. She was testifying  to the world about the goodness of a herbal man who has the roots and herbs to cure all kinds of disease and the herbal man's email was there. So I decided to contact the herbal man @herbalist_sakura for my younger sister's help to cure her breast cancer. I contacted him and told him my problem he told me that I should not worry that my sister cancer will be cure, he told me that there is a medicine that he is going to give me that I will cook it and give it to my sister to drink for one week, so I ask how can I receive the cure that I am in USA, he told me That I will pay for the delivery service. The courier service can transport it to me so he told me the amount I will pay, so my dad paid for the delivery fee. two days later I receive the cure from the courier service so I used it as the herbal man instructed me to, before the week complete my sister cancer was healed and it was like a dream to me not knowing that it was physical I and my family were very happy about the miracle of Doctor so my dad wanted to pay him 5 million us dollars the herbal man did not accept the offer from my dad, but I don't know why he didn't accept the offer, he only say that I should tell the world about him and his miracle he perform so am now here to tell the world about him if you or your relative is having any kind of disease that you can't get from the hospital please contact dr.sakuraspellalter@gmail.com or whats app him +2348110114739  you can follow him up on Instagram @herbalist_sakura for the cure, he will help you out with the problem. And if you need more information about the doctor you can mail me davidclara223@gmail.com 

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  24. My health was horrible before I decided to try the Protocol Of taking Dr Ebhota herbal mixture. I felt there was no hope for my health and I was doubtful to try the Protocol thinking it wouldn’t work because I have visited so many hospital but same result. However, I was convinced by my friend to try the herbal medicine because I wanted to get rid of HPV/WART. The herbal mixture that was given to me was really quick and easy to take, and since I have be taking it for less than 3 days I have less outbreak. But within one week i was fully cured from WART/HPV. The herbal medicine really work and I will like to share this great herb doctor contact with you all email him drebhotasolution@gmail.com or whatsapp +2348089535482. Pls try and help yourself out of warts completely today. he also c My health was horrible before I decided to try the Protocol Of taking Dr Ebhota herbal mixture. I felt there was no hope for my health and I was doubtful to try the Protocol thinking it wouldn’t work because I have visited so many hospital but same result. However, I was convinced by my friend to try the herbal medicine because I wanted to get rid of HPV/WART. The herbal mixture that was given to me was really quick and easy to take, and since I have be taking it for less than 3 days I have less outbreak. But within one week i was fully cured from WART/HPV. The herbal medicine really work and I will like to share this great herb doctor contact with you all email him drebhotasolution@gmail.com o r whatsapp +2348089535482. Pls try and help yourself out of warts completely today. he ure DIABETIES ULCAL CANCER etc.
    He also told me that he has solution for the flowing.
    1 Cancer cure
    2 Diabetes cure
    3 Ringing ear
    4 Herpes cure
    5 Warts cure
    6 HPV cure
    7 Get your ex back
    8 Pregnancy herbal medicine
    9 Prostate enlargement
    10 Hepatitis B
    11 Disability
    12 Kidney problem Etc.

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  25. I am so Happy to be writing this article in here, i am here to explore blogs forum about the wonderful and most safe cure for HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS.I was positive to the Virus called HERPES and i lost hope completely because i was rejected even by my closet friends. i searched online to know and inquire about cure for HERPES and i saw testimony about DR Ebhota online on how he cured so many persons from Herpes Disease so i decided to contact the great herbalist because i know that nature has the power to heal everything. i contacted him to know how he can help me and he told me never to worry that he will help me with the natural herbs from God! after 2 days of contacting him, he told me that the cure has been ready and he sent it to me via FEDEX or DHL and it got to me after 4 days! i used the medicine as he instructed me (MORNING and EVENING) and i was cured! its really like a dream but i'm so happy! that's the reason i decided to also add more comment of Him so that more people can be saved just like me! and if you need his help,contact his Email: (drebhotasoltion@gmail.com) You can contact him on WhatsApp +2348089535482 He also have the herb to cure difference cure for any sickness (1) HERPES,
    (2) DIABETES,
    (3) HIV&AIDS,
    (4) URINARY TRACT INFECTION,
    (5) HEPATITIS B,
    (6) IMPOTENCE,
    (7) BARENESS/INFERTILITY
    (8) DIARRHEA
    (9) ASTHMA..

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  26. I am here to give my testimony about Dr Ebhota who helped me.. i want to inform the public how i was cured from (HERPES SIMPLEX VIRUS) by salami, i visited different hospital but they gave me list of drugs like Famvir, Zovirax, and Valtrex which is very expensive to treat the symptoms and never cured me. I was browsing through the Internet searching for remedy on HERPES and i saw comment of people talking about how Dr Ehbota cured them. when i contacted him he gave me hope and send a Herbal medicine to me that i took for just 2 weeks and it seriously worked for me, my HERPES result came out negative. I am so happy as i am sharing this testimony. My advice to you all who thinks that there is no cure for herpes that is Not true just contact him and get cure from Dr Ebhota healing herbal cure of all kinds of sickness you may have like (1) CANCER,(2) DIABETES,(3) HIV&AIDS,(4) URINARY TRACT INFECTION,(5) CANCER,(6) IMPOTENCE,(7) BARENESS/INFERTILITY(8) DIARRHEA(9) ASTHMA(10)SIMPLEX HERPES AND GENITAL(11)COLD SOREHERPES. he also cure my friend from cervical cancer Email: drebhotasoultion@gmail.com or whatsapp him on +2348089535482

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  27. First, I want to complement this site administrator for creating this platform I frequently get cold sores(which lasts for 5-6 days on my lips and its painful both physically and mentally) .. As a bodybuilder, I basically get outbreak due to the daily pressure and heat in the body.. Recently I stumbled upon my salvation. I found a herbal remedy to cure hsv completely, in just 4weeks ..

    I got to know about Dr Utu after seeing a lady's testimony online. I reached the doctor and I ordered for herpes herbal medicine. He sent the herbs to me and I started making use of them. In just 2days, the cold sores are cleared. 4weeks after medication, I went to the hospital for test of cold sores and it was completely NEGATIVE.

    By following every prescription, i was able to cure my cold sore in less than 4weeks. 100% natural herbs no after effect.
    Note: Please do let others know if this work for you.
    The doctor's email is drutuherbalcure@gmail.com
    Note : follow all instructions accordingly..

    If you are sure that you have benefited from this African herbs be courageous to inform others.
    Thanks in advance

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  28. My health was horrible before I decided to try the Protocol Of taking Dr. Omola pure herbal mixture. I felt there was no hope for my health and I was to try the Protocol, thinking it wouldn’t work because I have visited so many hospital but same result. However, I was convinced by a Instagram friend to try the herbal medicine because I wanted to get rid of Herpes virus. The herbal mixture that was given to me was really quick and easy to take, within 2 week I was fully cured from Herpes. The herbal medicine really work and I will like to share this great doctor contact with you all email him dr.omolaherbalhome@gmail.com or WhatsApp +2348118116254 you won't regret it, I promise.

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  29. I GOT CURED OF HERPES WITH THE HELP OF DR OGU I Am from North Carolina, United State. I caught genital herpes from my ex boyfriend who never had any symptoms of herpes . I had it for 4 years ,and it has literally affected my life before I got cured. People think herpes is really a minor skin irritation, herpes has long term effects on health. The stigma attached to this virus by ignorant people is ridiculous. Most people have herpes in one form or another but they might not be aware of it. I would like to advise people on how I got rid of my herpes by using Dr OGU herbal medicine. I saw a comment posted by a woman from Germany on the internet that she got rid of her herpes with the help of doctor OGU. I was so happy when I saw that post. i quickly collected the doctor OGU contact email and I emailed him. Within 1 hr he responded to my email. i explained things to him and he told me not to worry that he will help me. i ordered for his medicine product which was sent to me via DHL. that was how i got the herbal medicine and i used it as i was told for the period of 6 days which is twice a day ( morning and at night before going to bed) .after 8 days, i found out that the herpes was no more and this was also confirmed by my doctor. if you have herpes or other similar disease and you want it cure, kindly contact doctor OGU Patrick via this email ; drogugusolutionhome@gmail.com or text him via: +1 719 629 0982 .

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  30. Am really grateful and thankful for what Doctor Ehimare has done for me and my family. I Was having HERPES for good three years with no solution, the diseases almost took my life and because I was unable to work and I was also loosing lots of money for medication, but one faithful day when I went online, I met lots of testimonies about this great man so I decided to give it a try and to God be the glory he did it. he cured me of my diseases and am so happy and so pleased to Write about him today. if you need his help or you also want to get cured just the way I got mine, just him Doctor Ehimare Whatsapp him ; +1 (267) 691-1087 or his email address drehimare3@gmail.com and get your healing. He has cure for other deadly diseases like Diabetes, Hiv/Aids, Hepatitis of all types and Cancer

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  31. [ ] I'm here to testify about the great work Dr Ehimare did for me. I have been suffering from (HERPES) disease for the past 5 years and had constant pain, especially in my knees. During the first year,I had faith in God that i would be healed someday.This disease started circulating all over my body and i have been taking treatment from my doctor, few weeks ago I came across a testimony of one lady on the internet testifying about a Man called Dr Ehimare on how he cured her from HIV Virus. And she also gave the email address of this man and advise anybody to contact Dr Ehimare for help for any kind of sickness that he would be of help, so I emailed him on ( Drehimare3@gmail.com ) telling him about my (HERPES Virus) he told me not to worry that i was going to be cured!! Well i never believed it,, well after all the procedures and remedy given to me by this man few weeks later i started experiencing changes all over me as Dr Ehimare assured me that i will be cured,after some time i went to my doctor to confirmed if i have be finally healed behold it was TRUE, So - [ ] friends my advise is if you have such sickness or any other at all you can contact Dr ehimare via email. { Drehimare3@gmail.com }or call or what sapp him on + 1 (267) 691-1087- [ ] DR Ehimare CAN AS WELL CURE THE FOLLOWING DISEASE:-- [ ] HIV/AIDS- [ ] HERPES- [ ] CANCER- [ ] ALS- [ ] cancer - [ ] Diabetes

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  32. Am really grateful and thankful for what Doctor Ehimare has done for me and my family. I Was having HERPES for good three years with no solution, the diseases almost took my life and because I was unable to work and I was also loosing lots of money for medication, but one faithful day when I went online, I met lots of testimonies about this great man so I decided to give it a try and to God be the glory he did it. he cured me of my diseases and am so happy and so pleased to Write about him today. if you need his help or you also want to get cured just the way I got mine, just him Doctor Ehimare  Whatsapp him ; +1 (267) 691-1087 or his email address drehimare3@gmail.com and get your healing. He has cure for other deadly diseases like Diabetes, Hiv/Aids, Hepatitis of all types and Cancer

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  33. Natural herbs have cured so many illnesses that drugs and injections can't cure. I've seen the great importance of natural herbs and the wonderful work they have done in people's lives. I read people's testimonies online on how they were cured of Herpes, HPV HIV/AIDS & STDs, Diabetics , Gonorrhea, Hepatitis, Arthritis, Chronic pains. etc. by herbal medicine, so I decided to contact the doctor because I know nature has the power to heal anything. I was diagnosed with Herpes for the past years but Dr Chike cured me with his natural herbs and I referred my aunt and her husband to him immediately because they were both suffering from herpes but to God be the glory, they were cured too .I know it is hard to believe but I am a living testimony. There is no harm trying natural herbs. Contact Dr on Whats-App . +233502715551. text/call via: +1 (719) 629 0982 , or you can also contact through his Facebook Page @ Dr Chike Herbal Remedy.

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  34. i am so glad to write this article today to tell the world how Dr. Ohunyom cured my HPV virus that have been in my body since five years ago, ever since then my life has been in complete,i have used so many drugs that was prescribed to me by several doctors,but it didn't cure my HPV VIRUS neither did it reduce the pain, i was checking for solution on the internet then miraculously came across Dr. Ohunyom the powerful herbalist that cure HPV INFECTION,then i contacted his email, i explained everything to him and he prepared a herbal cure and send it to me that was how i got cured from HPV disease totally after receiving his herbal medicine, so my friends viewers why waiting and be suffering with this HPV virus when there is someone like Dr. Ohunyom that can get you cured completely. you can contact his Email via:drohunyom@gmail.com and also WhatsApp him +2349060579973 And He also have herbs medicine to cured the following diseases; eczema,urethra wart,chronic problems.Herpes, Cancer, Als,Hepatitis, Diabetes, HPV,Infections,ulcer  ETC

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  35. I have be dealing with herpes for the past 1 years until i got review online about Dr ubarlo people testifies how they got cured with his herbal medicine. And i order the treatment, after taking it for 14days i totally got cured with Dr ubarlo treatment. I'm recommending you diagnosis with herpes should get this treatment and be cured of it ... You can also contact him on his email address drubarlohome@gmail.com or Whatsapp+2348119508814

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  36. I've been treating herpes virus for several years with different medications until I saw a post on how a young lady got cured from herpes, Out of desperation I decided to contact him with little or no hope of a solution after taken his herbal medications reluctantly to my biggest surprise I tested negative, God bless drubarlohome@gmail.com or +2348119508814 for his wonderful work

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  37. What a great miracle I have ever seen, my breast cancer stage 4 has just been cured after using a herbal detox from herbalist morata. I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2018. It has really been a problem for me and my family. I have been to many hospitals and spent 10,000 dollars all to know avail. On my research on the internet I came across a testimony of a lady called Monica Harris, she was testifying about Dr Morata healing medicine curing her cancer the email and WhatsApp contact of the doctor was also there.
    I made contact with him by mail, and we had a little conversation. He asked for a few of my details which I sent to him, i made an order from him to cure my breast cancer as well. three days of making order , i receive the medication from fedEx, i was very happy because i believe i will be cured with this herbal medicine sent from dr morata, i used the medicine the same way dr morata instructed.few weeks later of using the medicine my cancer was gone, i was surprise and even went to my dr for proper checkup which was confirm negative. you can also contact him on behalf of your illness that hospitals couldn't cure dr morata can help. contact him herbalistmorata@gmail.com WhatsApp +2349028574982 or mail me for more information maryjudith709@gmail.com

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  38. [ ] I'm here to testify about the great work Dr Ehimare did for me. I have been suffering from (HERPES) disease for the past 5 years and had constant pain, especially in my knees. During the first year,I had faith in God that i would be healed someday.This disease started circulating all over my body and i have been taking treatment from my doctor, few weeks ago I came across a testimony of one lady on the internet testifying about a Man called Dr Ehimare on how he cured her from HIV Virus. And she also gave the email address of this man and advise anybody to contact Dr Ehimare for help for any kind of sickness that he would be of help, so I emailed him on ( Drehimare3@gmail.com ) telling him about my (HERPES Virus) he told me not to worry that i was going to be cured!! Well i never believed it,, well after all the procedures and remedy given to me by this man few weeks later i started experiencing changes all over me as Dr Ehimare assured me that i will be cured,after some time i went to my doctor to confirmed if i have be finally healed behold it was TRUE, So - [ ] friends my advise is if you have such sickness or any other at all you can contact Dr ehimare via email. { Drehimare3@gmail.com }or call or what sapp him on + 1 (267) 691-1087- [ ] DR Ehimare CAN AS WELL CURE THE FOLLOWING DISEASE:-- [ ] HIV/AIDS- [ ] HERPES- [ ] CANCER- [ ] ALS- [ ] cancer - [ ] Diabetes

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  39. Natural herbs have treated so many illnesses that drugs and injections can't treat. I've seen the great importance of natural herbs and the wonderful work they have done in people's lives. I read people's testimonies online on how they were treated of HSV, HPV, Herpes, Liver diseases, Anxiety, Fever ,diarrhoea, aches and pains, sore throat , etc , by natural medicine, so I decided to contact the Naturopath Dr because I know nature has the power to heal anything. Believe it or not. but I am a living testimony. There is no harm trying natural herbs. Contact Dr on, text/call via: +1 (719) 629 0982 ,For herbs and medications. Or you can also contact through his Facebook page @ Dr Chike Herbal Remedy.

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  40. I've had Human Papillomavirus (HPV) problem over 2 years. I tried everything, of course I went to the DR. about a hundred times, probably not that many, but it sure seems like it. It never did any good for long and caused all kinds of other issues having to do with taking too many antibiotics. It wasn't until I stumbled upon this IDAHOSA natural herbal remedy cure I found on the internet; ("google" IDAHOSA Herbs Cure" ) or email dridahosasolutioncenter@gmail.com ), that my life changed completely. I'm feeling so much better now after using IDAHOSA natural holistic healing medicine, my quality of life has returned back to normal and every one of the symptoms are completely gone.

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  41. WHAT A GREAT MIRACLE THAT I HAVE EVER SEE IN MY LIFE. My names are Clara David I’m a citizen of USA, My younger sister was sicking of breast cancer and her name is Sandra David I and my family have taking her to all kind of hospital in USA still yet no good result. I decided to search for cancer cure so that was how I found a lady called Peter Lizzy. She was testifying to the world about the goodness of a herbal man who has the roots and herbs to cure all kinds of disease and the herbal man's email was there. So I decided to contact the herbal man @herbalist_dr_sakura for my younger sister's help to cure her breast cancer. I contacted him and told him my problem he told me that I should not worry that my sister cancer will be cure, he told me that there is a medicine that he is going to give me that I will cook it and give it to my sister to drink for one week, so I ask how can I receive the cure that I am in USA, he told me That I will pay for the delivery service. The courier service can transport it to me so he told me the amount I will pay, so my dad paid for the delivery fee. two days later I receive the cure from the courier service so I used it as the herbal man instructed me to, before the week complete my sister cancer was healed and it was like a dream to me not knowing that it was physical I and my family were very happy about the miracle of Doctor so my dad wanted to pay him 5 million us dollars the herbal man did not accept the offer from my dad, but I don't know why he didn't accept the offer, he only say that I should tell the world about him and his miracle he perform so am now here to tell the world about him if you or your relative is having any kind of disease that you can't get from the hospital please contact dr.sakuraspellalter@gmail.com or WhatsApp him +2348110114739 you can follow him up on Instagram @herbalist_dr__sakura visit his website
    https://drsakuraspellalter.wordpress.com/


    https://drsakurahealthclinic.wixsite.com/website

    for the cure, he will help you out with the problem. And if you need more information about the doctor you can mail me davidclara223@gmail.com

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